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Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
September 19, 2008, 5:39PM

by: TheKinginYellow

The views of Internet "culture" and IRL from an admitted troll's perspective.


Lets give this a proper send off.

My name is of no value. Names are just something to give an object a sense of purpose. But their is no purpose really. Purpose is objective. I believe everything is objective. Hence my disbelief in good or evil. 100 years ago they thought killing some one for the color of their skin was fine, 1000 years ago rape was AWWWWWWWWWWRIGHT. So why in today's day in age are things different? They aren't. We try to dress everything up nice and pretty and try to make things seem fair. But they aren't. By nature people are self centered. They fear what they do not understand. That fear turns to blind hate.

I understand this. I accept this as truth and don't allow it to hinder me. As a matter of fact I use it. Life has only the purpose you give it. I watch and see all these people doing all these things. But why? I constantly ask myself why do they do it. Why buy these clothes that cost so much? Why buy these things and waste away time doing all these moot things? Its beyond my understanding. It is not what you own or wear that makes you. So why do it? Because their lives are empty and they try to fill this void with purpose. But in the end, you have no purpose.

How am I different? Understanding the bleak meaning of life would be a mind crushing experience to most I would assume. I don't understand how I myself handle it. I like many others give myself purpose. But my purpose isn't to get rich or famous or to be loved. I would rather be hated and forgotten, thus far I'm doing a great job at that. But why? I'll tell you why wonderful reader. I believe my purpose is to show everyone not to be serious.

How do I go about that? By ruining peoples days, at times even lives. With out mercy or pity I hunt people down through out the Internet whom I believe deserve it. Like ICP? You're fucked. Love CP? So do I but you're extra fucked with myself and party V&. Think being a furry should be accepted and loved? I have your dox and your 40 pizza's are on the way. You want to be famous and think being a massive faggot is going to help you? Pray that theirs a god watching out for you lest I judge you unfunny and indulge in some ultra violence.

Now, to the root of it all. I hate the term "hater". Its so... bland. The first website I was ever banned from I was called a troll purely because I disagreed with the majority of the staff of the website. I wasn't exactly what I am today, but I was well on my way. Anyways, I was deemed a troll merely because I disagreed. Now to that point, everyone that doesn't agree with you is obviously a troll and must be destroyed, amirite? Yes and no. And I'll leave that answer vague so one can come to his/her own conclusions. Because in the end...

Its all objective and pointless. So lets just have a holocaust of self indulging lulzy fun.

I hope what I've written has confused you more then its helped you to understand.


topic: Rants

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Got Purpose
September 18, 2008, 4:45AM

by: my_little_pony

I haven't written anything mind opening lately. I like to explore my thoughts and have anyone who reads respond. Not that I think my thoughts are going to change the world or anything, but they certainly affect who I am, and that matters a lot to me.

I guess something I've learned lately is that every day should have a purpose. It feels great knowing that every day I need to drag my ass out of bed and haul it to work. You know why ir feels so fantastic? Because I am needed there, they need me and it feels good. Serving humanity daily, if only in a small way, is good soul food in my opinion. If you don't have a purpose then what is the point of living? If your purpose is finding a purpose higher other than feeding your own basic needs then I think that's fine, as long as you are happy.

Some days my purpose is to do my job well, some days it's to make others happy, and some days it's to relax and serve myself so that I may help others in a better way.

I don't think that anyone REALLY knows what they are here for. This could be heaven or this could be hell. This could be the only rock in the universe that we are ever going to live on and we should make our time on it as great as possible, because what else is there to do if you really don't know what comes after this place?

Often I find myself wanting to see what's next, right now, because I am overfilled with curiosity about what could happen and what may not. I ponder this for a moment and realize that it would be a total waste, because I know that I'm not going to live forever and I will eventually find out what's next. It could be nothing, it could be everything.

How do you know that your time here isn't up yet?

You're still here.

Make it a good one.


topic: Rants

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Big Foot Real or fake? An In Depth Analysis
August 20, 2008, 4:15PM

by: Crazydude13666

Sightings of Bigfoot, also called Sasquatch, were first reported in parts of the United States and Canada in the early 1800s. Since then there have been hundreds of reports of a large, hairy hominid or ape, with the distinguishing characteristic of a 16"-20" footprint. Similar stories from around the world about giant and elusive ape-like humans include the Yeren of China, the Yeti of the Himalaya mountains, the Yowie of Australia and the Mapinguari of South America...

In 2008 two men, Matt Whitton and Rick Dyer, held a press conference to claim they had found a Bigfoot body in the forests of Georgia.

I studied Anthropology in High School (the study of humans, evolution and habits, traits and customs) may I weigh in?

First the bible had many references to Big Foot and the Indians had over 100 words in there language referring to big foot. So there is a good chance big foot was real just died off by now!

Number 2 most sightings are close to a cave so maybe they are more of a cave dweller... They would have the upper hand down there if they know the caves... And we may never find there bodies.
After some research I have also found out that the area in which the Georgia Big Foot was found had caves near by and did in fact have had many sighting over a period of 20 years.

Why haven't we found any remains?
Very few remains of ancient wood apes have ever been found in Asia, where they were much more abundant. Millions of gigantos (a branch of the wood ape line) lived and died in Asia over the ages. All the remaining physical evidence we have of them could fit into a few shoe boxes. Fossils of any land animal are very rare.

Remains do not become fossilized very often, but unless that happens, all the remains will, in time, become completely reabsorbed into the ecosystem. There would be remains of animals everywhere if remains were not naturally recycled, including bones and teeth.
Fossils or preserved bones of wood apes may exist in the Americas, but they will be exceedingly rare, because these animals are rare to begin with, and only a tiny fraction of that population will die in locations and soils that will preserve bones somehow. Odds are slim at best that any bones (which are normally fragmentary) will be found, collected and identified unless a focused effort is made to look for them. Until efforts are made in many places, over a long period of time, no one should be scratching their head wondering why "we" don't have any physical remains.



Also if they did find Big Foot what DNA do they have to compare it to? Even Humans and Gorillas only have 2 common genetic similarities... So of course you would start by checking those two.
Big Foot could possibly share a few basic mammal traits of the opossum. Unless we rerun the DNA and take a more in depth look we may never find the answers we seek.
With time an Autopsy will be done with the specimen in Georgia and I feel we will have a better understanding of this creature we know so little about.
Like most findings the information is in the eye of the beholder. So whether you believe or disbelief next time you find yourself in the woods you might want to keep an eye out for the one they call Big Foot!



topic: Current Events

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Forum and Group Updates
August 2, 2008, 7:51PM

by: eon

I've made a series of small updates and refinements to the forum / group platform. While small, some of these changes will make things a lot easier or more interesting to use.

Updates:

1. Video posts, BBCodes and you: It is now possible to display YouTube, Google and MySpace videos directly inside of forum and group posts. Previously, if you tried to do this, the embed code would be stripped out (for security reasons) and the video would not appear. Well, if you use an embed code it will still be stripped out, but I've introduced new BBCodes which will allow you to do this safely (and more quickly and easily). It's as simple as taking the address of the video page and putting it inside of the correct BBCode tag. As an example, you could post a YouTube video with a code like this:

[tube]Address to YouTube video page goes here[/tube]

In addition, when you post videos this way, a 5-star rating icon will appear, allowing viewers to rate the video. These ratings will be unique to DS (separate from the video site where the video is hosted). To view the guide to the new BBCodes, click the New Post link and then click the link for BBCodes. Or just edit any post and scroll down a bit. There are other newly added BBCodes which will make it easier to add links, images and other things to your posts.

2. Search functions. Searching in forums and groups has been updated to include two new fields. One will limit the age of posts you search (so you can narrow down your results if you only want more recent posts). The other will let you display search results as either 'Topics' or 'Messages'. Previous search results have all been in 'Topic' format. That is, when you search for a certain keyword, you just get a list of topics containing posts which match, and you need to go hunting through them to find whatever you're looking for. Now, if you set results to 'Messages' you'll get to see a preview of each individual post which contains the keyword you searched, as well as a link directly to that post. In most cases, this makes it much easier to find what you're looking for. Try it!

3. Andromeda signatures in forum and group posts. The optional 10 rotating signatures that are available to Andromeda members will now appear in forum and group posts. This is significant because images are allowed in these signatures (they are not allowed in regular signatures). Previously, my concern here was that I didn't want the forums cluttered with too many large or obnoxious images that are repeatedly posted in sigs. To help keep our forums and groups from being cluttered this way, I have set a limit on the size of images which may be posted inside of these signatures. That limit is 400 pixels wide by 100 pixels high.

4. Refinements and bug fixes. I've made a number of other small refinements and bug fixes to the forums and groups. For example, signatures and "updated by" notices are now stored separately in the database from the actual messages. What this means is that when you quote posts, the sigs and "updated" notices will no longer appear in the quoted text. They will also be absent from search results. This will reduce clutter overall and make things easier to read. I fixed quite a few pesky bugs as well, many of which were long standing. So if you had any favorites, they are probably gone now. (Sorry.)

This is all a part of my overall plan to modernize our forum/group platform to increase it's features and ease of use. There will be more to come in this department (eventually).

For now:

Enjoy...


topic: Site News

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The Etiology of the Pyramids and Sunburns on White People
July 23, 2008, 5:31PM

by: quirky_one

A long time ago in a galaxy very, very near here there was the Earth. Of course Earth is in our galaxy but it was named Dirt World at the time so it is kind of different. At the time (the time being the somewhat less than definitive "long time ago") humans had just finished evolving from dinosaurs and were really tired. While they lay down to take a nap, aliens came and started poking around the Earth (still at this time named "Dirt World"). They were employees of an intergalactic real estate firm looking to buy up planets that had been foreclosed on. They apparently liked what they saw because they bought it despite the price being significantly higher than they expected.

Needless to say, the newly evolved humans were quite shocked to awaken to aliens moving all their stuff around. The aliens were equally surprised to find that the humans had not gotten the eviction notice. Of course Earth had gotten the notice but at the time everyone had been dinosaurs and nobody could read. The aliens, already upset at the Earth's steep price, held a meeting to decide what to about the humans. After digging up some violent dinosaur footage meant strictly for home viewing, it was deemed convenient to label them as "savages" and have them placed into reeducation camps were they would be forced to watch reruns of pro-alien films like E.T. and My Favorite Martian. The aliens couldn't have expected better results. Stephen Spielberg was nominated for best director and violent xenophobic uprisings dropped by 90%.

Unfortunately the good times came to an end when a bootleg copy of Alien III fell into the human's hands. Public opinion polls showed a marked decrease in the alien approval rating. People began questioning the laser force field prisons and soon angry youths were throwing rocks and calling the aliens hurtful names. Meanwhile, intellectuals huddled in coffee shops and wrote petition letters to the ISCS (redundantly named "The Intergalactic Space Congress of Space" in true bureaucratic style). The letters didn't seem to have any effect and the authors got old and died. Tensions continued to get worse and soon human forces under the command of Dan Quail's distant ancestor, Steve Quail, drove the aliens from the Earth (now no longer named Dirt World but actually named Earth).

In response, the hard line intergalactic government under pressure from real-estate special interest groups launched an invasion fleet to Earth. The original name of the operation was dropped by the administration in fear that "Operation Earth Smash" gave the mission an overtly aggressive feel. The newly named "Operation Earth Hug" deployed on Stardate <*<>* (which admittedly means very little to anyone who doesn't run on Northern Quadrant Sector 5112A Standard Time). Congress however only approved a single landing zone just west of the Nile River. Having found this information by looking at the ISCS's user friendly website, the human decided to build up defenses in the area. After reviewing several promising designs, a brilliant defense was selected. The pyramid provided a perfect anti-landing device and humans began building them all over the useless alien landing strip now called Egypt.

When the aliens arrived and tried to land, the pyramids kept poking the bottom of their spaceships. It was very frustrating. They sent an appeal to the Intergalactic Space Congress of Space for a new landing zone but by the time the Bylotar Opposition Party exhausted its filibuster, their attempt at landing in central Mexico had been thwarted as well. On Stardate <*<<* Grommela Purgonotte, the first female Fishmander to become President, came to power. It had generally been forgotten that a Starfleet had continually circled Earth (still often referred to as "Dirt World" in a derogatory sense) for over a thousand years. The gas prices at the time induced severe budget cuts and the fleet was recalled. After several days of drunken street celebrations, mankind received its many political prisoners who had been held on Pluto for around eighty generations. The result however was a gangly race with a pale, snow-like complexion. The new arrivals found that rather than returning to a glorious homecoming, they were made fun of by their peers. As if that was not enough, the sun that had provided their ancestors with sustenance now burnt their skin and turned it unattractive shades of red.

They appealed to a now much more sympathetic ISCS which granted them compensation for their unjust treatment and minimal exposure to sunlight as part of "alternative interrogating techniques". The ghostly white humans received an oddly timed outpouring of alien sympathy because the now two thousand year old "laser force field prison notes" that had only recently been leaked to the press. The result was that whites in return for their suffering were given three eternal gifts: sunscreen, really big shade hats, and Europe. Of course the Palestinians who were given a small arid region along the Mediterranean in return for the Continent were not pleased but they were given strong assurances that their new home would remain theirs forever.



topic: Life

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To quote George Carlin..
July 4, 2008, 1:56PM

by: mainstream

George Carlin on religion.

"When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

But I want you to know something, this is sincere, I want you to know, when it comes to believing in God, I really tried. I really, really tried. I tried to believe that there is a God, who created each of us in His own image and likeness, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I really tried to believe that, but I gotta tell you, the longer you live, the more you look around, the more you realize, something is fucked up.

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

So rather than be just another mindless religious robot, mindlessly and aimlessly and blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompetent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to look around for something else to worship. Something I could really count on.

And immediately, I thought of the sun. Happened like that. Overnight I became a sun-worshipper. Well, not overnight, you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning, I became a sun-worshipper. Several reasons. First of all, I can see the sun, okay? Unlike some other gods I could mention, I can actually see the sun. I'm big on that. If I can see something, I don't know, it kind of helps the credibility along, you know? So everyday I can see the sun, as it gives me everything I need; heat, light, food, flowers in the park, reflections on the lake, an occasional skin cancer, but hey. At least there are no crucifixions, and we're not setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.

Sun worship is fairly simple. There's no mystery, no miracles, no pageantry, no one asks for money, there are no songs to learn, and we don't have a special building where we all gather once a week to compare clothing. And the best thing about the sun, it never tells me I'm unworthy. Doesn't tell me I'm a bad person who needs to be saved. Hasn't said an unkind word. Treats me fine. So, I worship the sun. But, I don't pray to the sun. Know why? I wouldn't presume on our friendship. It's not polite.

I've often thought people treat God rather rudely, don't you? Asking trillions and trillions of prayers every day. Asking and pleading and begging for favors. Do this, gimme that, I need a new car, I want a better job. And most of this praying takes place on Sunday His day off. It's not nice. And it's no way to treat a friend.

But people do pray, and they pray for a lot of different things, you know, your sister needs an operation on her crotch, your brother was arrested for defecating in a mall. But most of all, you'd really like to fuck that hot little redhead down at the convenience store. You know, the one with the eyepatch and the clubfoot? Can you pray for that? I think you'd have to. And I say, fine. Pray for anything you want. Pray for anything, but what about the Divine Plan?

Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and fuck up Your Plan?

And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

And for those of you who look to The Bible for moral lessons and literary qualities, I might suggest a couple of other stories for you. You might want to look at the Three Little Pigs, that's a good one. Has a nice happy ending, I'm sure you'll like that. Then there's Little Red Riding Hood, although it does have that X-rated part where the Big Bad Wolf actually eats the grandmother. Which I didn't care for, by the way. And finally, I've always drawn a great deal of moral comfort from Humpty Dumpty. The part I like the best? "All the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God. None, not one, no God, never was.

In fact, I'm gonna put it this way. If there is a God, may he strike this audience dead! See? Nothing happened. Nothing happened? Everybody's okay? All right, tell you what, I'll raise the stakes a little bit. If there is a God, may he strike me dead. See? Nothing happened, oh, wait, I've got a little cramp in my leg. And my balls hurt. Plus, I'm blind. I'm blind, oh, now I'm okay again, must have been Joe Pesci, huh? God Bless Joe Pesci. Thank you all very much. Joe Bless You! "

-George Carlin, 1937-2008.


topic: Life

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A Bunch of Updates
June 29, 2008, 11:19PM

by: eon

I've completed work on an assortment of little updates to the site which I will detail here:

1. Polls: You now have the ability to post polls both in the site forums and in groups. To post a poll inside of a group or forum topic, click the 'New Post' link and then click the 'Post a Poll' link. As some have suggested, this may change the social dynamics a bit. I'm going to see how this goes and I may consider adding in some controls to help keep things from getting too crazy (if indeed they do.)

2. Easier group invites: You can now invite someone to your group by clicking a link directly from their profile. To find the link, scroll down to the section of their profile where you normally find links to see what groups they are a member of, add them as a friend, etc.. I have also upped the maximum group invitations to 30 per day.

3. Blog comment notifications: You will now receive a notification when someone posts a new comment to your blog (in the same place as the 'New Comments' notification). When you click the link, you will have a display of your blog entries where only the entries with new comments will show up. You will also find some new links to toggle between different ways of viewing your blog entries.

4. Only display pics with new comments: Similar to the new viewing options for blogs, when you click your 'New Pic Comments' notification, you will now see a page which only shows your pics which have new comments. You'll have links to toggle between these views. This should come in super handy for you Andromeda people who have like 80 pictures and have to go hunting for which ones have new comments every time you get a notice.

5. There is also something new in the forums which you may or may not find. If you do find it, I hope you like it.

As always, be on the lookout for any bugs which have been introduced. I've tested everything pretty well, but a few always sneak in somehow.

And:

Enjoy...


topic: Site News

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In response to...
June 29, 2008, 2:56AM

by: Jareth

This, I suppose I should post as an article. This is in response to a comment that Eon made regarding my article, "To wax a little more philosophically.."

He'd posited some interesting comments, and those that I could explain better I did, some of the others I did not respond to I felt were covered by that which I DID respond to. I leave it to the reader to draw conclusions and such.


Where would the balance be if consciousness were continually brought in, but never returned? (To die, and have your spirit remain in the dirt with the body?) What would the point be of that output of energy?



This assumes that the "spirit" is a distinct entity, possessing it's own energy. How do you know that what we perceive as "consciousness" is anything more than a sequence of memories, stored on what is essentially an organic computer?

Once the physical body is destroyed, perhaps the memories are erased and everything that was once perceived as "spirit" or "consciousness" is simply a heap of lost data?


This is an entirely possible theory, and I really cannot agree nor disagree with it. There really isn't much that I can identify as proof one way or another on that. However here is where a slight exercise in logic comes in. As in, if we were no more than a mere supervamped computer, how would that negate the concept of spirit, or spiritual energy?

I defer, as reference, to the numerous documented projects detailing something that so far I am aware of has no other conjecture. These projects involve Kurlian(sp) photography, which give a very visual indication of a certain type of electromagnetic field that surrounds and envelopes the body, and which also has been noted to change color, size, and even shape apparently depending upon the individuals mood and state of being. In fact, further research in the last several years has shown that the state of this field tends to influence the body's health, and not the other way around.

This is a field that is not observable in human bodies after death. Now I suppose that this could be stated to be a field generated by the operation of the "human computer", but either way without God or whatever to say, how can we know it's not just a by product of the machine operating, varying due to the operating parameters, or the real spirit?

I would submit the further, documented experiments conducted by Robert A. Monroe (deceased) of the Monroe Institute, that demonstrate in observable and documented means a mode of human existence that does not necessitate the human body. I encourage anyone to google these names, you will find information. As well, Dr. Monroe published a trilogy of books (albeit the latter two seemed to be more of a chronicaling of his experiences rather than his scientific works) describing in fairly good detail how he went about experimenting with his Out Of Body Experiences, and proving what was and was not fact.



What about the concept of when the body dies, the spirit simply ceases to be? Balance? Perhaps. This is a little more plausible than the previous, if the energy of that spirit were somehow recycled back into the stew of reality as raw. Then it could be more believable.


Yes, this is where I think you're missing something. What energy are you talking about here? What exactly needs to be recycled? I think you're assuming there to be some kind of spiritual energy that needs to be dealt with. Why must there be?

If the spirit is only a construct of the mind, then it doesn't exist in any real way. In this way, the spirit is virtual and virtual things can definitely go "poof".


Well.. that being so, wouldn't electricity fall under the category of not existing in any real way? We cannot see or touch electricity, it has no quantifiable substance, only an effect that we have learned over centuries to measure and eventually harness. I do not as yet see any reason to think any differently of this energy that I speak of. There already is rudimentary means of measuring it, and even observing it, due to the previous research into the electromagnetic field.

And what I would see being recycled, is the information that is carried within the energies of each individual. Afterall, what IS a thought, or memory? A perturbation of the EM field that is generated and transmitted within the brain, conducted along the synapsis and nerves, and all the little gooey things in the brain. Well, it makes sense to me that all that we learn is carried within our beings as an altered, or modulated, EM frequency. As we learn and grow our energies change due to the addition of more frequencies.

This is how I suspect that we as a collective ALSO (not the only way, but it contributes) learn and evolve. By the recycling of these alterations into the mass pool of energy that we all exist in as is. That being, the EM field that permiates everything, us, plants, planet, sun, solar system. As stated before, if you look far enough into any given solid object you will find that it is created of EM particles, or energies. Proton, neutron, electron. Therefore, I see that as being the most common elemental constituent, something that even IF spirit did not exist, we all have in common with eachother and everything else. The original primordial ooze, if you will. This kind of observation just makes it seem like it's not such a far leap in logic. I'm thinking that, while this energy might not be observable within the body after the body expires, it leaves that and returns to the mass pool. Whether the individuality is kept in it's form or not, I cannot speculate.


It would seem to me an idea both reeking of balance and making more sense as to why live at all.. the classic reincarnation theory.



Why does life have to make sense or have a purpose? You're projecting a very human desire onto your interpretation of reality. Of course, just because we wish something doesn't make it so.

Reincarnation theory is very elegant and it's pleasing to imagine. I'll give it that. But that's all I'll give it. Reincarnation isn't necessary to explain anything. It isn't some kind of missing piece that we need to fit.


I may be trying to make it make sense, indeed this IS the thinnest part of all my conjecture, but I STILL have no reason to say it isn't a truth. But I will admit it is a bit weak by itself.


Yes, this implies a creator, gestalt, superbeing. I can not logically and without ignorance conclude against such a being. Nor can I remove some form of evolution of that creation.


And thus, the last chunk of your argument breaks down. There is no need for a creator. Whether or not there is one is open to debate, but we don't need one to explain anything.


My only convincing observation on this matter, is the pure artwork I see in existence. I just cannot see the kind of beauty I see just.. happening.

Blah, between conversations, surfing the net for information on other things, and just feeling lazy on a day I cannot leave the ship, I'm about worn out writing. I tried to keep this shorter and simpler, maybe I accomplished it?


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To wax a little more philosophically…
June 17, 2008, 5:32PM

by: Jareth

What does it mean, if presently known to be 20+ years incarnate; and confirmed to be only mortal.. when one feels with conviction, certainty, and no doubt that there is more to reality with however no idea what? That there is more to us, but have no objective proof? That that one has been on or around this world for ghastly amounts of time, but aside from stray and confused feelings and memories that a good deal of psychologists would call “false” or otherwise discredit, has no recollection?

Perhaps it is the wishful thinking of a weak mind ill equipped to handle the rigors of daily life?

Possibly the imaginative construct of a borderline delusional with a tentative grasp on “rational” existence?

Or is it a wistful recollection hindered by a lack of supporting similarity in the present experience?

Could holding to this, despite copious amounts of subjective evidence be considered faith?

Would logic then not dictate that, if one can not hold to blind faith, or even faith of any form (being defined as an unsubstantiated belief) that this too, must be eschewed? Religion could just as easily be described as magic of several forms.

Reality, what Is real? What kills us? Surely that, above all else, must be real?
Perhaps death, as a state is more real than life?

Consider maybe that reality is merely is merely a massive illusion, as so many others have theorized. Where then would we, as observants to the illusion be? Within it, surrounded and immersed? Or is it in us? Are we being fed the illusion directly to our minds? Again, an old idear, but no less valid.

Answering this question would require us to have some idea of the true nature of our existence. However THAT requires a confidence in the nature of reality. To exist a thing must have at least 3 dimensions: Mass, Energy, Motion. For these to manifest in truth there must be a supporting framework, or structural mechanism. A reality. This is what traditional temporal mechanics leads me to believe. The nature of that reality dictates the parameters of the possibilities available to exist in. Reality can be conjectured upon by extrapolation from analysis of existence. It is what science is half-assedly doing. The truth of that can only be seen when the effort is made to see both what is and is not, if you just go in to prove a point you will miss nearly everything.

So; to discern if this, our existence and thus our reality, is “real” of illusion, it would seem necessary to have multiple points of view. Assuming that what we exist in is real and not a willful illusion, that then leaves the proverbial doors wide open as to the possibilities in regards the previous questions. Even from our limited point of view on this existence, a wide number of modes of existing seem mathematically possible when considering the subsequent extrapolation of the theoretical nature of reality.

Reality, as far as any scientific endeavor has been able to determine, has an ordered electromagnetic basis. Meaning the base creative elements herein are a seemingly structured chaos of electromagnetic energy. Electromagnetism by its very nature allows for numerous modes of energetic existence. Which is basically reality in general as we now know it, since matter is only modulated energy. The “Ordered Chaos” comes into play when you analyse the base constituents of sub-atomic particles. Quarks, muons, buons, and the even smaller items of whose names elude me. The effects and existence of these are generally known and repeatable (order) though not even close to being fully understood or explainable (chaos), else less would be called theory still.

I digress.

It should be fairly obvious if anyone cares to research, that while we know and understand a great deal about nature and our existence; reality is another beast entirely. Just when man tries to delude himself into thinking he knows more than a smidgen, another monkey with a wrench is seen. I propose that given the apparent foundation in our theorized reality, it could be possible and more than probable that sequential repetitive existence of a consciousness is a “real” thing. No less than the idea of static, or disposable consciousness. More likely than either, I’d say.

One thing I’ve noticed as a key element, regardless of where it is seen it is the same, is the reality of balance. Harmony. I have yet to be aware of an instance wherein balance is not had through some means or another.

Where would the balance be if consciousness were continually brought in, but never returned? (To die, and have your spirit remain in the dirt with the body?) What would the point be of that output of energy?

What about the concept of when the body dies, the spirit simply ceases to be? Balance? Perhaps. This is a little more plausible than the previous, if the energy of that spirit were somehow recycled back into the stew of reality as raw. Then it could be more believable.
However there would be a tragic loss of life knowledge and experience. This would also preclude another constant I am aware of: Adaptation, or Evolution if you will.

Evolution doesn’t necessarily mean, say, frogs growing into apes into men. Merely, the alteration of an organism into something more. Take for instance human society. Reckon that to skin. Individually man, like those cells is a discreet and fully functional being. Combined with more they can take any of multiple forms, and survive vastly larger adversities. Colonies, cities, counties, states, nations, army’s, gangs, bands, teams. I should hope you know what skin can make.

The evolution herein lie within the ability of these organisms to alter to either accommodate or surmount whatever they encounter.

Back to my main point.

It would seem to me an idea both reeking of balance and making more sense as to why live at all.. the classic reincarnation theory.

Live, experience, grow, return, change all around you, do it again. Simply put, I see any variant of that as falling well in line with all observed “laws” of nature. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed…

Yes, this implies a creator, gestalt, superbeing. I can not logically and without ignorance conclude against such a being. Nor can I remove some form of evolution of that creation.

Given that, and the idea that memory depends on both storage of information AND experience as a point of reference; I don’t find it too hard to believe that my own recollections of times past are more than just works of imagination. Especially when most of those memories and dreams would surface in a time of relative contentment and more than occasional happiness. Most especially when many of these only came up during or after the meeting of certain other people… other souls I’d known before. And most especially when, after encountering types of “dreams” that me and a few others have had which we’ve come to term “warfare”; which more often than not would leave us waking with various physical ailments from soreness or severe pain to various swelling, cuts, bruising in shapes, patterns, and locations that it would be hard if not impossible to self inflict. For at these times they would have HAD to be self inflicted were they mundane in source. The reasons for these experiences are beyond the scope of this writing, but the reminder to me is clear: no matter how ensconced I may get in this here/now… it’s not the only time, place, or me.


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A Few Updates
May 18, 2008, 10:40PM

by: eon

A few small updates have been added:

1. In the forums, you will now be able to see a list of the last 10 people to view any thread. To find the list, just go to any thread and scroll to the bottom, where you will find a table with the spiffy new info.

2. In groups, a feature has been added allowing you to block specific people from your group. Previously, to block people from your group, you had to set the group up to require an application and then not accept anyone who you didn't want to allow in. This works fine as long as you want to require applications/invites. If you wanted to run an open group, however, there previously was no way to keep the troublemakers out. This will also come in handy for blocking people who pester you by repeatedly applying to your group despite repeated rejections. Look at the 'manage members' section of your group control panel to find the new feature.

3. Andromeda members will now be able to see a list of the last 20 people to view any picture in their pic gallery. To see the list, just view any picture and look for a table with this info. If there have been any viewers, the table will appear above the picture comments. Keep in mind, since the featue has just been added, the lists haven't had much time to accumulate views, so it's likely you won't find much right away. I may add the same feature for Starling members (with a reduced number of people saved on the list). Currently, I am testing to see whether or not this is practical and what limitations I'll need to set.

Find out more about Andromeda

Thank you. And,


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